Johannes Wilhelm Bouck

1747 - 1830

• Name	Johannes Wilhelm Bouck
  Born	03 Jun 1747	Albany Co, New York   [1, 2]
  Gender	Male
  Died	31 Dec 1830	Schoharie, Schoharie Co, New York   [1, 2]
  Buried	Schoharie Cemetery, Schoharie, Schoharie Co, New York
  	JOHN W. BOUCK died December 31 1830, aged 83 years, 6 mos. 23 days
  Notes	Court Papers Pertaining to the Revolutionary War Pension Of Johannes Wilhelm Bouck 1747 - 1830 State of New York Schoharie County ----- In this fifth day of February 1841 person with appeared before the subscriber a judge of Schoharie County courts Maria Bouck, a resident of the town of Schoharie in said county and state, in the ninety third year of her age, who being first duly sworn, according to law, doth on her oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the provision made by the act of Congress passed July 4th 1836: That she is the widow of Johannes Bouck, commonly called John Bouck, who was a Lieutenant in the Revolutionary War, in Captain Hagers Company, in Colonel Vroomans Regiment: That the annexed is his commission - that when he was appointed, there was another man by the name of John Bouck, living in the same town older than her husband, which was the reason of the letter "W" being added by way of distinction. That soon after the commencement of the war, the said John Bouck, Senior, left the country and went to Canada as was supposed, that after that her said husband omitted the middle letter "W" in writing his name -- That when he wrote his name in English he wrote it John Bouck. That he entered the service as soon as he received his commission, and was in the service from that time; at various times in each year till in the year 1781 -- But to state with precision the number of times he was in the service in each year and the length of each tour she cannot. She thinks he was in the service sometimes over a month at a time. She further declares that she was married to the said Johannes Bouck on the 15 day of July seventeen hundred and seventy two. That her husband the aforesaid Johannes Bouck died on the thirty first day of December 1830 at Schoharie aforesaid, where he then resided -- And that she has remained a widow ever since that period, which will more fully appear by the proof hereto annexed. her Maria X Bouck mark State of New York Schoharie County -------- Johan Gebhard Junior, being duly sworn, said that John Bouck, otherwise called Johannes Bouck, names in the annexed _________ Died on the thirty first day of December in the year 1830: And that the said Maria Bouck also named in the said declaration, has remained and still is his widow -- signed John Gebhard Jun. Subscribed and sworn this Eleventh day of March 1841 before me David Miles Justice of the Peace certify the above John Gebhard Junior is a person of veracity. State of New York Schoharie County ------- for I, George A. Litner (sp), Pastor of St. Pauls Lutheran church of the town and county of Schoharie and state foresaid, Do certify that on an Examination of the Registrar of Marriages of said church, I find therein Recorded, the marriage of Johannes Bouck and Maria Kreusler in these words _______ seventeen hundred and seventy two, day fifteen July. Johannes Bauch and Maria Kreusler, and further that the above extract is a true copy of the Record with the exception of the date which is ______ On the Record in fair legible figures as follows "Anns 1772 den 15 Jul." I George A Litner above named, depose and say, that I am pastor of the church above married and mentioned and that the above is a true extract from the Records of said church with the exception above named as certified by me. Signed G. A. Litner (Lintner) Subscribed and sworn this 11th day of March 1841 before me David Miles--Justice of the Peace Sworn to and subscribed on the day and year above written before me; and I certify that the applicant cannot, from old age and bodily infirmity, attend the court. signed: Harvey Watson a judge of Schoharie County Courts The place now called the Rocks at Christian Shafers in the town of Schoharie, and that they with the said Company under the command of the said Captain Hager, started from there on a tour to Albany; from thence to Coxsackie and from thence to Luxenbrugh, was called Athens, from which place they returned home. And he further says that on two other tours this deponent and the said Lieutenant Bouck, with the company and under the command of the said Captain Hager went over to the Mohawk River, now Montgomery County, and that he and the said Lieutenant Bouck were present at the time when Sir John Johnson was taken a prisoner at the Mohawk river on the ice in the winter; and were also present at another time when Harry Hare was made a prisoner at the Mohawk River - And he further says that the said company was ordered out on another occasion to take Burgoyne, and that Lieut. Bouck and this Deponent, together with the said company started on their march, and when they arrived at Albany they received the news that Burgoyne brought there said prisoner -- And he further says that at another time the said Lieutenant Bouck and this deponent together with the said company, which at the time was under the command of the said Lieutenant Bouck (Captain Hager not being present) started on a tour and went to a place there called Skeenborough, now called Whitehall and from circumstances now in his recollection, he is positive they were on duty ______ ______ tour about one month and this is the only tour in which this Deporment can state with certainty the length of time he and the said Lieutenant Bouck were on duty -- and further saith not. signed: John S. Lawyer Subscribed and sworn this first day of March in the year Eighteen hundred and forty one before me. State of New York Schoharie County ------ Personally came before me Benjamin Best, Esquire one of the Justices of the peace in and for the said county John L Lawyer of the town of Fulton in said county and state, where he now resided, and has resided ever since and during the Revolutionary war, who being duly sworn deponent and saith that he this deponent was at the time of the Revolutionary war, well acquainted with Johannes Bouck, commonly called John Bouck who was a Lieutenant in the Revolutionary was, in Captain Hagers Company, in Colonel Vroomans Regiment -- that when he was appointed Lieutenant there was another man by the name of John Bouck living in the said county older that the said Lieutenant John Bouck and the said Lieutenant was distinguished by the name of Johannes W. Bouck. That soon after the war, the said John Bouck, Senior, left the country and went to Canada as was supposed -- that after that the said Lieutenant Bouck omitted the middle letter "W" in writing his name -- That when he wrote his name in English he wrote it John Bouck: And that he this deponent, was also at that time an Ensign in the company under the command of the said Captain Hager in Colonel Vroomans Regiment. This deponent further saith that the different tours of duty herein after set forth were performed during the years one thousand seven hundred and seventy six, seventy seven and seventy eight, but the precise month and year and the length of each tour he cannot recollect; neither can he recollect all the tours of duty which he performed in company with the said Lieutenant Bouck, but is confident that in the whole they amounted to more than six months: and he distinctly recollects the following tours during the years 1776, 1777, and 1778 aforesaid -- That at a certain time the said Lieutenant Bouck and this deponent with Colonel Hagers Company of militia met at or near _________ (end of copy) April 17th Sir In the case of ---- Maria Bouck it will be necessary to obtain a specific statement of each term for which a claim is ---------- and sustain it by the -------- testimony which the surviving --------- of her late husband may offord. The pension if granted will be computed by the half pay rec while he was in service and therefore the length and grade of the service must be ascertained with satisfactory precision. The certificate of the Compl. of N York should be obtained showing how for each term of the alleged service is confirmed or discredited by his records. Compl------- Office Albany April 29, 1841 M. A. Hellecklin Washington City Sir Your letter of the 14 April was duly received regarding further evidence in relation to the Revolutionary service of W. Bouck. In answer to which I have to say that copies of all the evidence on this subject afforded by the records in this office have recently been furnished to a person in Schoharie who in answer to a recent inquiry states that they have been forwarded to you at Washington. It is sufficient that a portion of the papers relating to the revolutionary period which was sent from this office to the pension office at Washington still remain there. a part only having been returned here when called for some few years service. If any do remain there, it is quite probable some evidence bearing on the Bouck case may be found among them. May 13, 1841 Sir The certificate of the Comptroller in the case of Miss Maria Bouck shows 14 terms of service credited to the name of her late husband - but one of them only can relate to him whose commission as a Lieut. in Vroomans Regt. of militia ____ date as 20 Oct 1775. This term about (20 days) was rendered in Nov '78 from which time the records of militia service are deemed full and complete -- With respect to the service prior to '79 to which the deposition of John S. Lawyer refers, it is not sufficient with the terms above to make his monthly -- He abruptly says that the term of service were from a few days to 1 month duration and that he was out with Lt. Bouck five times in 76-78 the last tour being 1 month -- The _____ refer to no service after '78 and the records credit him as a Lieut. with none ---- If the terms___ to 79 were no longer that they were subsequently to that date as shown by the comptroller certificate, it could require numerous terms to make an aggregate of six months, which is the minimum service for which the cause provides. signed: Mr. A.H. Micklen 4th Aud Office From the History of Schoharie County: "Upon the retreat of McDonald, Capt. Hager returned to Saratoga with his force and was at the battle of Bemis Heights, and from thence, marched with a detachment of militia to the Delaware and Charlotte to arrest the disaffected, that had been more bold upon the prospect of the success of British force, than before. At no time during the struggle were there as many arrested and confined or forced to give bail for their "good behavior towards the patriots," as immediately after the surrender of Burgoyne and retreat of St. Leger. The militia drove matters to a crisis with the timid, as well as the evil disposed, and during the Captain's whole military career we fail to find an instance where his passions gained control of his judgment, and led him to commit rash deeds, that were to his discredit as a soldier and a Christian gentleman. His bravery and military skill were conceded by Johnson, Brant, McDonald and Crysler to be undaunting, as upon several occasions a conflict was evaded when it became known that the Captain was in command. The second company which he commanded was the most active of any, and consisted of fifty-five all told, with Martinus VanSlyck as First Lieutenant, Johannes W. Bouck, Second Lieutenant and Peter Swart, Ensign, and during the war, arrested, tradition says, two hundred and fifty Tories, and delivered them to the Colonial authorities."
  Person ID	I47256	Bryant
  Last Modified	1 Jul 2005

  
  

  Father	Johan Wilhelm Bouck,   b. 04 Jan 1711/12, New York ,   d. 24 Sep 1785, Schoharie, Albany Co, New York
  Mother	Anna Elisabeth Krèausler,   b. 1716, West Camp, Ulster Co, New York ,   d. 07 Feb 1780, Albany Co, New York
  Married	14 Sep 1742	Schoharie, Albany Co, New York   [3]
  	They lived on Bouck Island, across the Schoharie River from Anna's brother, Hieronymous (Jeronimus) , in Fultonham about ten miles south of the Village of Schoharie. Her grandson, William Christian Bouck, became Governor of the State of NY between 1842 and 1844.
  Family ID	F3224	Group Sheet

  
  

  Family	Maria Krèausler,   b. Oct 1748, Fultonham, Schoharie Co, New York ,   d. 16 Sep 1841, Schoharie, Schoharie Co, New York
  Married	15 Jul 1772	St. Paul's Lutheran Church, Schoharie, Albany Co, New York   [4, 5]
  	Some sources give marriage date as 15 Jul 1771. There were two other men named Johannes (John) Bouck married and having children baptised in St. Paul's Lutheran Church. They were sons of Fridrich and Wilhelm (respectively) as distinguished in the baptism records. Both were married to women named Catharine. One of these was undoubtedly the John Bouck Sr mentioned as having removed to Canada after the revolutionary war. (See the pension records of John W. Bouck)
  Children	1. Adam Bouck,   b. 24 Apr 1772, Schoharie, Albany Co, New York ,   d. 04 Aug 1841, Washtenaw Co, Michigan   2. Catherine Bouck,   b. 27 Feb 1776, Schoharie, Albany Co, New York   3. Margaretha Bouck,   b. 27 Nov 1777, St. Paul's Lutheran Church, Schoharie, Albany Co, New York   4. Margaretha Bouck,   b. Sep 1782, Schoharie, Albany Co, New York ,   d. 28 Sep 1855   5. Elizabeth Bouck,   b. Sep 1782, Schoharie, Albany Co, New York ,   d. 10 Nov 1868
  Family ID	F3211	Group Sheet

  
  

• Event Map		Born - 03 Jun 1747 - Albany Co, New York Married - 15 Jul 1772 - St. Paul's Lutheran Church, Schoharie, Albany Co, New York Died - 31 Dec 1830 - Schoharie, Schoharie Co, New York Buried - - Schoharie Cemetery, Schoharie, Schoharie Co, New York  = Link to Google Maps   = Link to Google Earth
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• Sources

  [S79] Palatine Families of New York, Henry Z Jones, Jr., (Author, Universal City, CA, 1985), 1:31-35. [S338] Chrysler Family, (Chrysler, C. Donald, 2000), p.32. [S338] Chrysler Family, (Chrysler, C. Donald, 2000), p.31. [S338] Chrysler Family, (Chrysler, C. Donald, 2000), p.30. [S96] NYG&BR, New York Genealogical and Biographical Record, 105:2-p.8.